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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 25, 2014 4:47:51 GMT
What? The dude came in and acted like an asshole and pretended to be Bane. Why would anyone not react the way we did (other than Mr. Edge Fan)? We are the same people. Stuff like that happens when tensions are high. I'm bummed because I thought you were a cool dude. What the heck does significance have to do with it? You were, again, still a part of the community. When Gremer thought the guy was Bane, he was bitter. Soondragon did likewise, on a lesser extent. No, you guys aren't. I remember long ago before you even joined Bane's forums and people didn't argue unless it was Soon, Muta or Wildknight, if someone's opinion was overly ridiculous or if it were people joking around. I too noticed the HUGE attitude switch and it seemed like a darker place. It was a place where I wasn't as much of a Black Sheep as I am in real life. Then s*** changed and people who you didn't think we're really such complete douchebags showed their true colors shamelessly. And the overall douchebagginess has strongly carried over to Clown's forums. It's a pass. And I'm not afraid to call out who are definites that became total Richards. f*** it, none of this matters. I'm gonna live my life, go to school and try to work my real life out, because I simply don't have time to deal with utter bullshit over the Internet. Maybe if you guys act like you're actual human beings with hearts and a conscious, I'll return. But I'm not sticking around for any of that constant self-centeredness, snarkiness, disrespect and immaturity, especially from folks who you'd THINK would be better than that because THEY HAVE GODd*** CHILDREN OR ARE f***ing OVER 30. Jesus, save me. So maybe I'll come back to be the average nobody. The kid who sits in the farthest corner of the classroom and goes to the Library when it's break time. But not at all now. I don't desire to be caught in a real life "Call of Duty" game that is that forum. There's no more random, chaotic tranquility, so I'll settle for plain, old tranquility instead. I'm a pacifist. Because the Internet. Wow, and here I thought you were mature. You really have no idea, you're to busy buying into bullsh*t that's not even there. Gremer wasn't bitter, he said he didn't care. And to everyone you said was bitter, TENSIONS WERE HIGH. You really have a lot of growing up to do. If you really did check out the new site, you would realize there isn't even arguing. If you come back good, if you don't oh well, we tried, and you keep living in the past. Good day, and God bless. |
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 25, 2014 5:24:48 GMT
To add to my previous post, this is from WrestleClown, to Iodill: This is all about Iodill's insecurities about not being a "big member of FoS." All I can say is that he was to me. If he wants to stay over there, fine with me. I don't know who has been a douchebag to him, though. It looks like RWF is letting the insecure guys who felt like they didn't have a leg to stand on here have a place to run to. No one said anything bad to Iodill, I don't know what his problem is. He's being emotional, and when he comes back, he'll be welcomed.
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Post by iodill8 on Jul 25, 2014 5:37:54 GMT
When Gremer thought the guy was Bane, he was bitter. Soondragon did likewise, on a lesser extent. No, you guys aren't. I remember long ago before you even joined Bane's forums and people didn't argue unless it was Soon, Muta or Wildknight, if someone's opinion was overly ridiculous or if it were people joking around. I too noticed the HUGE attitude switch and it seemed like a darker place. It was a place where I wasn't as much of a Black Sheep as I am in real life. Then s*** changed and people who you didn't think we're really such complete douchebags showed their true colors shamelessly. And the overall douchebagginess has strongly carried over to Clown's forums. It's a pass. And I'm not afraid to call out who are definites that became total Richards. f*** it, none of this matters. I'm gonna live my life, go to school and try to work my real life out, because I simply don't have time to deal with utter bullshit over the Internet. Maybe if you guys act like you're actual human beings with hearts and a conscious, I'll return. But I'm not sticking around for any of that constant self-centeredness, snarkiness, disrespect and immaturity, especially from folks who you'd THINK would be better than that because THEY HAVE GODd*** CHILDREN OR ARE f***ing OVER 30. Jesus, save me. So maybe I'll come back to be the average nobody. The kid who sits in the farthest corner of the classroom and goes to the Library when it's break time. But not at all now. I don't desire to be caught in a real life "Call of Duty" game that is that forum. There's no more random, chaotic tranquility, so I'll settle for plain, old tranquility instead. I'm a pacifist. Because the Internet. Wow, and here I thought you were mature. You really have no idea, you're to busy buying into bullsh*t that's not even there. Gremer wasn't bitter, he said he didn't care. And to everyone you said was bitter, TENSIONS WERE HIGH. You really have a lot of growing up to do. If you really did check out the new site, you would realize there isn't even arguing. If you come back good, if you don't oh well, we tried, and you keep living in the past. Good day, and God bless. Wait, so my perspective is bullshit? I thought that people's attitudes were different long before Bane deleted the forum. Also, this is THE INTERNET. I READ posts. I don't hear them. Due to the fact that tensions were HIGH, I read it in my mind as if Gremer was pissed AF. Sorry if I misinterpreted you, Gremer. As for all that living in the past and we tried stuff: Who cares? I need to grow up? Dude, I DON'T KNOW YOU FROM EVER. You're just a guy who popped up into Bane's forums one day. You act as if Im seriously giving a fuck. You're the one getting mad when Im saying why I'm CONSIDERING coming back. Don't be hypocritical, as you have growing up to do also. As for you Gremer, whatever, bro. I'm not gonna be admonished by some fucking guy and someone who's only like, ONE YEAR older than me. God bless you all. |
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Post by iodill8 on Jul 25, 2014 5:40:02 GMT
To add to my previous post, this is from WrestleClown, to Iodill: This is all about Iodill's insecurities about not being a "big member of FoS." All I can say is that he was to me. If he wants to stay over there, fine with me. I don't know who has been a douchebag to him, though. It looks like RWF is letting the insecure guys who felt like they didn't have a leg to stand on here have a place to run to. No one said anything bad to Iodill, I don't know what his problem is. He's being emotional, and when he comes back, he'll be welcomed.
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 25, 2014 5:51:56 GMT
Lol, I'm not getting mad at all. Clown isn't being bitchy or spiteful, he was being the nice guy here.. You're reading into things way too much. You seem to be in a really dark place right now, and I pray you come to your senses.
Also, age has nothing to do with maturity. Besides, everyone has some growing up to do.
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I'd also like to add, you are saying all this bad stuff about us, yet right now you are acting the same way. Hypocritical, much?
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Post by WWEfan57 on Jul 25, 2014 5:53:36 GMT
I know it's not my place (half of you guys don't even know me) but doesn't this seem a bit much over a f**king forum? I honestly don't see why it's a big deal if Iodill/Slade joins that particular forum or stays on this one... it's just unnecessary bulls**t, as far as I'm, and probably everyone else is, concerned. Like I said, not my place but all this s**t is pointless. I may not "be in the loop" of this situation but I don't need to be in it to know it's all stupid.
Good day everybody, this is all I have to say about this.
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 25, 2014 5:54:40 GMT
From Clown: Iodill, you do realize that you just said "God be with you" just two sentences after saying "The clown's being bitchy" don't you? It's pure emotion. I don't know what's going on with your end of things, but you're not acting like yourself in the least. It seems you just want to fight for the sake of fighting. I don't even think you know what you're saying, especially since you apparently went from "Clown is PMSing" to "My problem wasn't even with Clown".
Lighten up. Take a real look at the current state of the site (and whether we're being "douchebags" which I don't see from anyone and you can't cite proof of), and quit speaking from any insecurities about "Not being a big member." Make yourself a big member.
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 25, 2014 5:56:23 GMT
I know it's not my place (half of you guys don't even know me) but doesn't this seem a bit much over a f**king forum? I honestly don't see why it's a big deal if Iodill/Slade joins that particular forum or stays on this one... it's just unnecessary bulls**t, as far as I'm, and probably everyone else is, concerned. Like I said, not my place but all this s**t is pointless. I may not "be in the loop" of this situation but I don't need to be in it to know it's all stupid. Good day everybody, this is all I have to say about this. Well, we're not making a big deal about the forums, lol. It's all about behavior. |
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 25, 2014 6:12:12 GMT
I'd also like to point out, then I'm done, Iodill is the only person who hasn't put all of this behind. Everyone else has forgiven each other and moved on.
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Post by iodill8 on Jul 25, 2014 6:18:03 GMT
My problem isn't "not being a big member".
My problem is "why be there".
2. Who are any of you to judge whether someone is insecure about something? And despite WhoCares? claiming WrestleClown is the good guy, I would say not completly, as if he didn't call everyone who voiced their opinion on the issue here "insecure" and that this is practically all the "insecure people's" safe haven. That's outright disrespectful.
All I'm saying is, IM the one making the choice whether to join the forums or not to. If I see things a certain way, you're not making change my perspective if its a subjective thing. I come on my own terms.
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Post by iodill8 on Jul 25, 2014 6:19:47 GMT
I'd also like to point out, then I'm done, Iodill is the only person who hasn't put all of this behind. Everyone else has forgiven each other and moved on. Haven't put WHAT behind? I've been doing what WC said and making my decision. It's the little things. |
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 25, 2014 6:23:26 GMT
I'd also like to point out, then I'm done, Iodill is the only person who hasn't put all of this behind. Everyone else has forgiven each other and moved on. Haven't put WHAT behind? I've been doing what WC said and making my decision. It's the little things. I'm sorry man, it's just the vibe I'm getting from your posts. We're not telling you what you should do, we're basically saying, we have changed the attitudes and behaviors of certain members and this community is definitely benefiting from it. |
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Post by iodill8 on Jul 25, 2014 6:26:27 GMT
Haven't put WHAT behind? I've been doing what WC said and making my decision. It's the little things. I'm sorry man, it's just the vibe I'm getting from your posts. We're not telling you what you should do, we're basically saying, we have changed the attitudes and behaviors of certain members and this community is definitely benefiting from it. Hmm... Like I said. It's the little things. |
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Post by SRI on Jul 25, 2014 6:44:51 GMT
To add to my previous post, this is from WrestleClown, to Iodill: It looks like RWF is letting the insecure guys who felt like they didn't have a leg to stand on here have a place to run to.
*Honk*
Okay, I haven't been an active member on that site to be known by many, but Clown I respect and like you. The reason I am not on FOS much is because I barely have time for this site. That said, these are my opinions.. 1. Look who's being disrespectful now? 2. RWF Forum isn't a forum created for discussions like you. It's created for RWF (the roleplaying company). iodill and ati just happen to be here because they're on the company. 3. This needs a "cool off" period. Asking people to apologize for talking shit about the site and doing the same thing yourself is not helping things. We need to have a "cool off" period for a few weeks. Tensions would drop, people would join, if not; then move on. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 12:25:33 GMT
I want to start off and let it be known that I did not tell iodill anything that you guys didn't already know (literally, I believe I showed him the same pm and let it at that). It kind of seems like as if I was the one that made him think those things, which is most certainly not the case. He knows as much about the situation as anybody else. Now I'll continue.
I was going to keep a lot of this stuff to myself, because I simply don't care right now, however it's apparently affecting some of the people still.
1. I've been told that my decision and/or actions are the reason people (and this is a quote I was given) were being "shitheads" now (apparently something Clown said?). I've made it clear multiple times and I'll make it clear again, I do not know what is true about over there or what's false. I'm just simply given what I know and telling what I know. If Clown did indeed call people shitheads for the reasons of wanting a stricter place instead of a free action forum, I will respectfully say that there are MANY members that have talked to me through pm at different times telling me that a few (and when I say a few, it was usually 3 - 5 people) people were just simply making the place not fun for them. They didn't suddenly become "shitheads," a lot of them genuinely did not like the environment before that. Hell, even after what I did, I had more people (that I didn't even know signed up to the site) tell me that they never posted there because of it. If Clown thinks (and I'm not saying he did, I'm just using what was given to me from people) that me doing what I did caused people to agree with my point of things and become "shitheads" because of it, then he's wrong. I don't want to say anybody's name since it's not my place, however I can say that maybe the "you guys suddenly want rules?" thing isn't as sudden as you guys think. I let you all get away with a lot more than you guys think despite what myself and others thought of situation.
Honestly, I think the first time I actually said anything was the whole Stewie situation, and you guys all saw what happened there. So, I don't get the point of thinking that this was a sudden thing from members, when we all know that it has been on-going for a long time.
2. I can confirm that iodill was one of the ones that hated the environment. Quite honestly, the whole insecurity thing is stupid. I know for a fact why he didn't post there as much and simply just liked 90% of the posts was because of the fact that he simply didn't want to get attacked for having a "wrong opinion."
3. I can agree with Clown that iodill was a main member of the FOS.
4. My thoughts on the "Real FOS." The FOS is not classified by the url (and if it was, it would technically the old ones weren't FOS), but as the community. We as part of the community are FOS. It's not a forum or site that distinguishes the real FOS. It's the community. I'm the real FOS, iodill's the real FOS, Clown's the real FOS, ati's the real FOS, Gmen's the real FOS, Wild's the real FOS, mike's the real FOS, muta's the real FOS, Soon's the real FOS....and everybody else that helped bring the original site up, was the real FOS. From MEF and Boomerang and cole to Charliebucketsgrandpa, pinksparklepuff, and jaispeed. Anybody that helped even the slightest to make the FOS a thing, that's where the "real FOS" is. I don't see why people are making it as if the real FOS is over there, or over here....because it's not. We all are FOS and that's the way it is.
5. Despite what WhoCares? and Gremer and apparently Clown keep saying, I've had a number of pms and Facebook messages telling me how you guys are not only mocking me (which I honestly don't care about), but you're mocking others that simply don't want to be over there. Like I've said, I'm not saying if any of it's real or fake, as I don't know. I am however saying that if that's the case, I don't think anybody has the right to be saying anything bad about the people over here talking bad about the people over there.
Again, I urge you all to realize that at this point I don't know which of the things I've been told are true and which are false. I also don't care. However, even if that stuff doesn't happen and I'm being told lies, it's all being proven once again that the drama is leading to the friendships ruining, which is in my opinion really not worth it. If iodill doesn't want over there, that's completely his choice and I don't think saying stuff like "I don't care, he'll be back anyway" is really helping Clown's case. Again, yes, that's what I've been told Clown is saying about every single person that says they're done there for awhile.
However, according to what WhoCares? said Clown said...
...I just found proof that at least one person is being a "douchebag" without even having to look at the site. Sorry, but that was kind of rude. *shrugs* As you like to call them, "those insecure people" probably fit elsewhere since you're already making it seem like they're not welcome and like they're below you guys and like they're just going to get attacked over there once again. The above quote kind of makes me think twice about who was telling the truth between ati and Clown...
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Post by iodill8 on Jul 25, 2014 12:56:39 GMT
I want to start off and let it be known that I did not tell iodill anything that you guys didn't already know (literally, I believe I showed him the same pm and let it at that). It kind of seems like as if I was the one that made him think those things, which is most certainly not the case. He knows as much about the situation as anybody else. Now I'll continue. I was going to keep a lot of this stuff to myself, because I simply don't care right now, however it's apparently affecting some of the people still. 1. I've been told that my decision and/or actions are the reason people (and this is a quote I was given) were being "****eads" now (apparently something Clown said?). I've made it clear multiple times and I'll make it clear again, I do not know what is true about over there or what's false. I'm just simply given what I know and telling what I know. If Clown did indeed call people ****eads for the reasons of wanting a stricter place instead of a free action forum, I will respectfully say that there are MANY members that have talked to me through pm at different times telling me that a few (and when I say a few, it was usually 3 - 5 people) people were just simply making the place not fun for them. They didn't suddenly become "****eads," a lot of them genuinely did not like the environment before that. Hell, even after what I did, I had more people (that I didn't even know signed up to the site) tell me that they never posted there because of it. If Clown thinks (and I'm not saying he did, I'm just using what was given to me from people) that me doing what I did caused people to agree with my point of things and become "****eads" because of it, then he's wrong. I don't want to say anybody's name since it's not my place, however I can say that maybe the "you guys suddenly want rules?" thing isn't as sudden as you guys think. I let you all get away with a lot more than you guys think despite what myself and others thought of situation. Honestly, I think the first time I actually said anything was the whole Stewie situation, and you guys all saw what happened there. So, I don't get the point of thinking that this was a sudden thing from members, when we all know that it has been on-going for a long time. 2. I can confirm that iodill was one of the ones that hated the environment. Quite honestly, the whole insecurity thing is stupid. I know for a fact why he didn't post there as much and simply just liked 90% of the posts was because of the fact that he simply didn't want to get attacked for having a "wrong opinion." 3. I can agree with Clown that iodill was a main member of the FOS. 4. My thoughts on the "Real FOS." The FOS is not classified by the url (and if it was, it would technically the old ones weren't FOS), but as the community. We as part of the community are FOS. It's not a forum or site that distinguishes the real FOS. It's the community. I'm the real FOS, iodill's the real FOS, Clown's the real FOS, ati's the real FOS, Gmen's the real FOS, Wild's the real FOS, mike's the real FOS, muta's the real FOS, Soon's the real FOS....and everybody else that helped bring the original site up, was the real FOS. From MEF and Boomerang and cole to Charliebucketsgrandpa, pinksparklepuff, and jaispeed. Anybody that helped even the slightest to make the FOS a thing, that's where the "real FOS" is. I don't see why people are making it as if the real FOS is over there, or over here....because it's not. We all are FOS and that's the way it is. 5. Despite what WhoCares? and Gremer and apparently Clown keep saying, I've had a number of pms and Facebook messages telling me how you guys are not only mocking me (which I honestly don't care about), but you're mocking others that simply don't want to be over there. Like I've said, I'm not saying if any of it's real or fake, as I don't know. I am however saying that if that's the case, I don't think anybody has the right to be saying anything bad about the people over here talking bad about the people over there. Again, I urge you all to realize that at this point I don't know which of the things I've been told are true and which are false. I also don't care. However, even if that stuff doesn't happen and I'm being told lies, it's all being proven once again that the drama is leading to the friendships ruining, which is in my opinion really not worth it. If iodill doesn't want over there, that's completely his choice and I don't think saying stuff like "I don't care, he'll be back anyway" is really helping Clown's case. Again, yes, that's what I've been told Clown is saying about every single person that says they're done there for awhile. However, according to what WhoCares? said Clown said... ...I just found proof that at least one person is being a "douchebag" without even having to look at the site. Sorry, but that was kind of rude. *shrugs* As you like to call them, "those insecure people" probably fit elsewhere since you're already making it seem like they're not welcome and like they're below you guys and like they're just going to get attacked over there once again. The above quote kind of makes me think twice about who was telling the truth between ati and Clown... 2. Is kinda off. That is 75% why I didn't post as much, but the liking thing was due to this: Saying I agree, without having to post "this" or "I agree". Fear of getting virtually jumped is only, like, 25%. LOL. But yeah, I agree. And sure, MAYBE the enviroment over there HAS "changed", but the fact that the HEAD ADMIN is being so outright disrespectful, and cruel and having 3rd parties speak for him and insulting people, then one of his 3rd parties tells me to GROW UP and practically says I'm being DELUSIONAL. That says FAR MORE than you would believe. That's what I mean when I say "the little things". |
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I want to start off and let it be known that I did not tell iodill anything that you guys didn't already know (literally, I believe I showed him the same pm and let it at that). It kind of seems like as if I was the one that made him think those things, which is most certainly not the case. He knows as much about the situation as anybody else. Now I'll continue. I was going to keep a lot of this stuff to myself, because I simply don't care right now, however it's apparently affecting some of the people still. 1. I've been told that my decision and/or actions are the reason people (and this is a quote I was given) were being "****eads" now (apparently something Clown said?). I've made it clear multiple times and I'll make it clear again, I do not know what is true about over there or what's false. I'm just simply given what I know and telling what I know. If Clown did indeed call people ****eads for the reasons of wanting a stricter place instead of a free action forum, I will respectfully say that there are MANY members that have talked to me through pm at different times telling me that a few (and when I say a few, it was usually 3 - 5 people) people were just simply making the place not fun for them. They didn't suddenly become "****eads," a lot of them genuinely did not like the environment before that. Hell, even after what I did, I had more people (that I didn't even know signed up to the site) tell me that they never posted there because of it. If Clown thinks (and I'm not saying he did, I'm just using what was given to me from people) that me doing what I did caused people to agree with my point of things and become "****eads" because of it, then he's wrong. I don't want to say anybody's name since it's not my place, however I can say that maybe the "you guys suddenly want rules?" thing isn't as sudden as you guys think. I let you all get away with a lot more than you guys think despite what myself and others thought of situation. Honestly, I think the first time I actually said anything was the whole Stewie situation, and you guys all saw what happened there. So, I don't get the point of thinking that this was a sudden thing from members, when we all know that it has been on-going for a long time. 2. I can confirm that iodill was one of the ones that hated the environment. Quite honestly, the whole insecurity thing is stupid. I know for a fact why he didn't post there as much and simply just liked 90% of the posts was because of the fact that he simply didn't want to get attacked for having a "wrong opinion." 3. I can agree with Clown that iodill was a main member of the FOS. 4. My thoughts on the "Real FOS." The FOS is not classified by the url (and if it was, it would technically the old ones weren't FOS), but as the community. We as part of the community are FOS. It's not a forum or site that distinguishes the real FOS. It's the community. I'm the real FOS, iodill's the real FOS, Clown's the real FOS, ati's the real FOS, Gmen's the real FOS, Wild's the real FOS, mike's the real FOS, muta's the real FOS, Soon's the real FOS....and everybody else that helped bring the original site up, was the real FOS. From MEF and Boomerang and cole to Charliebucketsgrandpa, pinksparklepuff, and jaispeed. Anybody that helped even the slightest to make the FOS a thing, that's where the "real FOS" is. I don't see why people are making it as if the real FOS is over there, or over here....because it's not. We all are FOS and that's the way it is. 5. Despite what WhoCares? and Gremer and apparently Clown keep saying, I've had a number of pms and Facebook messages telling me how you guys are not only mocking me (which I honestly don't care about), but you're mocking others that simply don't want to be over there. Like I've said, I'm not saying if any of it's real or fake, as I don't know. I am however saying that if that's the case, I don't think anybody has the right to be saying anything bad about the people over here talking bad about the people over there. Again, I urge you all to realize that at this point I don't know which of the things I've been told are true and which are false. I also don't care. However, even if that stuff doesn't happen and I'm being told lies, it's all being proven once again that the drama is leading to the friendships ruining, which is in my opinion really not worth it. If iodill doesn't want over there, that's completely his choice and I don't think saying stuff like "I don't care, he'll be back anyway" is really helping Clown's case. Again, yes, that's what I've been told Clown is saying about every single person that says they're done there for awhile. However, according to what WhoCares? said Clown said... ...I just found proof that at least one person is being a "douchebag" without even having to look at the site. Sorry, but that was kind of rude. *shrugs* As you like to call them, "those insecure people" probably fit elsewhere since you're already making it seem like they're not welcome and like they're below you guys and like they're just going to get attacked over there once again. The above quote kind of makes me think twice about who was telling the truth between ati and Clown... 2. Is kinda off. That is 75% why I didn't post as much, but the liking thing was due to this: Saying I agree, without having to post "this" or "I agree". Fear of getting virtually jumped is only, like, 25%. LOL. But yeah, I agree. And sure, MAYBE the environment over there HAS "changed", but the fact that the HEAD ADMIN is being so outright disrespectful, and cruel and having 3rd parties speak for him and insulting people, then one of his 3rd parties tells me to GROW UP and practically says I'm being DELUSIONAL. That says FAR MORE than you would believe. That's what I mean when I say "the little things". I did not mean the only reason, so that is my bad  I agree though. |
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Post by WhoCares? on Jul 25, 2014 15:18:47 GMT
I want to start off and let it be known that I did not tell iodill anything that you guys didn't already know (literally, I believe I showed him the same pm and let it at that). It kind of seems like as if I was the one that made him think those things, which is most certainly not the case. He knows as much about the situation as anybody else. Now I'll continue. I was going to keep a lot of this stuff to myself, because I simply don't care right now, however it's apparently affecting some of the people still. 1. I've been told that my decision and/or actions are the reason people (and this is a quote I was given) were being "****eads" now (apparently something Clown said?). I've made it clear multiple times and I'll make it clear again, I do not know what is true about over there or what's false. I'm just simply given what I know and telling what I know. If Clown did indeed call people ****eads for the reasons of wanting a stricter place instead of a free action forum, I will respectfully say that there are MANY members that have talked to me through pm at different times telling me that a few (and when I say a few, it was usually 3 - 5 people) people were just simply making the place not fun for them. They didn't suddenly become "****eads," a lot of them genuinely did not like the environment before that. Hell, even after what I did, I had more people (that I didn't even know signed up to the site) tell me that they never posted there because of it. If Clown thinks (and I'm not saying he did, I'm just using what was given to me from people) that me doing what I did caused people to agree with my point of things and become "****eads" because of it, then he's wrong. I don't want to say anybody's name since it's not my place, however I can say that maybe the "you guys suddenly want rules?" thing isn't as sudden as you guys think. I let you all get away with a lot more than you guys think despite what myself and others thought of situation. Honestly, I think the first time I actually said anything was the whole Stewie situation, and you guys all saw what happened there. So, I don't get the point of thinking that this was a sudden thing from members, when we all know that it has been on-going for a long time. 2. I can confirm that iodill was one of the ones that hated the environment. Quite honestly, the whole insecurity thing is stupid. I know for a fact why he didn't post there as much and simply just liked 90% of the posts was because of the fact that he simply didn't want to get attacked for having a "wrong opinion." 3. I can agree with Clown that iodill was a main member of the FOS. 4. My thoughts on the "Real FOS." The FOS is not classified by the url (and if it was, it would technically the old ones weren't FOS), but as the community. We as part of the community are FOS. It's not a forum or site that distinguishes the real FOS. It's the community. I'm the real FOS, iodill's the real FOS, Clown's the real FOS, ati's the real FOS, Gmen's the real FOS, Wild's the real FOS, mike's the real FOS, muta's the real FOS, Soon's the real FOS....and everybody else that helped bring the original site up, was the real FOS. From MEF and Boomerang and cole to Charliebucketsgrandpa, pinksparklepuff, and jaispeed. Anybody that helped even the slightest to make the FOS a thing, that's where the "real FOS" is. I don't see why people are making it as if the real FOS is over there, or over here....because it's not. We all are FOS and that's the way it is. 5. Despite what WhoCares? and Gremer and apparently Clown keep saying, I've had a number of pms and Facebook messages telling me how you guys are not only mocking me (which I honestly don't care about), but you're mocking others that simply don't want to be over there. Like I've said, I'm not saying if any of it's real or fake, as I don't know. I am however saying that if that's the case, I don't think anybody has the right to be saying anything bad about the people over here talking bad about the people over there. Again, I urge you all to realize that at this point I don't know which of the things I've been told are true and which are false. I also don't care. However, even if that stuff doesn't happen and I'm being told lies, it's all being proven once again that the drama is leading to the friendships ruining, which is in my opinion really not worth it. If iodill doesn't want over there, that's completely his choice and I don't think saying stuff like "I don't care, he'll be back anyway" is really helping Clown's case. Again, yes, that's what I've been told Clown is saying about every single person that says they're done there for awhile. However, according to what WhoCares? said Clown said... ...I just found proof that at least one person is being a "douchebag" without even having to look at the site. Sorry, but that was kind of rude. *shrugs* As you like to call them, "those insecure people" probably fit elsewhere since you're already making it seem like they're not welcome and like they're below you guys and like they're just going to get attacked over there once again. The above quote kind of makes me think twice about who was telling the truth between ati and Clown... 2. Is kinda off. That is 75% why I didn't post as much, but the liking thing was due to this: Saying I agree, without having to post "this" or "I agree". Fear of getting virtually jumped is only, like, 25%. LOL. But yeah, I agree. And sure, MAYBE the enviroment over there HAS "changed", but the fact that the HEAD ADMIN is being so outright disrespectful, and cruel and having 3rd parties speak for him and insulting people, then one of his 3rd parties tells me to GROW UP and practically says I'm being DELUSIONAL. That says FAR MORE than you would believe. That's what I mean when I say "the little things". Hey, I don't think anyone had a real problem with the liking thing, despite what they said. I, personally found it funny and I knew you were just agreeing. I meant what I said about growing up, sorry that it was offensive. I don't recall anyone calling you delusional. I see where you are coming from concerning Clown. Honestly, I think he didn't mean to insult you and neither did I. I apologize. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 15:23:30 GMT
Just to make things clear, nobody did have a problem with the liking.
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Post by iodill8 on Jul 25, 2014 18:43:55 GMT
Just to make things clear, nobody did have a problem with the liking. I know. It just pissed Soon and WSS? off (but not seriously) so sometimes I did it out of spite too, lol |
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